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22.03.2003 5:26   mierea de albina la copiii sub 1 an  citat 

Buna!
Am o mica intrebare.
De ce mierea de albina nu este indicata copiilor sub 1 an?
In cazul in care sint constipati ce e bine sa li se dea?


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22.03.2003 8:10     citat 

Din motive de Botulism. exclamatie

Botulismul este o boala produsa de 1 din cele 5 neurotoxine, produse de Clostridium botulinum, si poate duce la o forma acuta de paralizie.
La bebelusi apare datorita ingestiei de spori de Clostridium botulinum prezenti in miere sau in siropul de porumb (corn syrup), iar la copiii mai mari sau la adulti poate apare datorita hranei ce contine aceste toxine (in general conserve vechi, sau peste vechi, necongelat cum trebuie).

Botulismul nu este contagios, dar nu se stie inca care-i mecanismul dupa care apare la bebelusi. Se presupune ca sistemul lor digestiv incomplet dezvoltat ii face mai vulnerabili (copiii mai mari sau adultii nu au se pare probleme daca mierea consumata a avut ceva spori).
La bebelusi primul semn de Botulism este constipatia. Pot apare stari de slabiciune, letargie, lipsa poftei de mincare. Aceste simptome pot dura mai multe zile.
Complicatii ce pot apare: deshidratare, pneumonie, paralizie, sufocare si chiar moartea.

Se poate preveni prin fierberea produselor contaminate timp de cel putin 3 minute, timp in care toxinele sint distruse.

Din motivele enumerate mai sus se recomanda ca mierea sa nu fie oferita copiilor sub 1 an. Dar poate fi pusa la fiert in apa cel putin 5 minute si poti sa-i faci un ceai. trag cu ochiul Pentru Alex eu am folosit doar mierea fiarta o data cu apa, niciodata zahar. zambet


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Locatie: Brasov
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Diana-Maria: 20 ani, 6 luni

24.03.2003 6:59     citat 

Este intocmai asa cum spune Cora.
botulismul poate sa apara sau nu, dar de ce trebuie sa risti, daca poti sa previi?


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25.03.2003 5:52     citat 

Exista si miere sterilizata, Active Manuka Honey, made in New-Zealand.

Spori de botulism exista deasemenea in praf si in sol, de aceea toate legumele trebuie spalate foarte bine si preparate prin fierbere.

Botulinum spores are found widely in soil, dust, and honey. Adults who swallow botulinum spores are almost never affected. When infants swallow the spores, however, the spores can germinate in their immature gastrointestinal tracts and begin producing botulinum toxin. This has occurred even when the honey was only used to sweeten a pacifier (European Journal of Epidemiology, Nov 1993).

Botulinum toxin is the most poisonous natural substance known to man. The lethal dose is only 1/10,000,000 mg per kg of body weight -- an amount that would be invisible to the naked eye. This tiny amount in the blood stream can cause death within minutes through paralysis of the muscles used in breathing.

Infant botulism has been found on every continent except Africa. In the United States it is most common in the states of California, Utah, and Pennsylvania. While infant botulism can occur from taking in soil or dust (especially vacuum cleaner-bag dust), eating honey is the number one preventable cause. Corn syrups are not sterilized and may also be a source of contamination (The AAP Red Book, 2000).

Infant botulism can occur any time in the first year of life, but like SIDS it is most common in the first six months. In fact it has been suggested as the cause of death in up to 10% of SIDS cases (Nelson Textbook of Pediatrics; Saunders 1992).

Thankfully, in most instances of infant botulism, the amount of toxin is so incredibly minuscule that the case remains mild. For this reason it is often misdiagnosed.

The first symptom of infant botulism is constipation (which is also a common benign finding in many infants). This can appear 3 to 30 days following ingesting spore-containing honey (The AAP Red Book, 2000). Typically, the parents then observe increasing listlessness, decreased appetite, and weakened cry over the next several days. Nursing mothers often report new engorgement. Sometimes this is the full extent of the disease. If the disease progresses, however, the child moves less and less and might begin to drool from the mouth. Gagging and sucking reflexes diminish. Loss of previous head control is also an important sign. Complete respiratory arrest can occur either suddenly or gradually.

If an otherwise healthy baby develops constipation, followed by weakness and difficulty in sucking, crying, or breathing, then infant botulism should be considered the most likely diagnosis until proven otherwise.

When infant botulism is diagnosed, the average Intensive Care Unit stay for the baby is about one month, typically including mechanical ventilation and continuous tube feedings. This is followed by another 2 weeks on the hospital ward, with a total hospital cost often exceeding $100,000 (Pediatrics; Feb 1991). Thankfully if the botulism is correctly diagnosed and the baby receives appropriate supportive care, almost all will recover fully and completely. The fatality rate for babies who have been hospitalized with botulism is less than 1%. Recently, an antitoxin for infant botulism has been developed and shown to reduce hospital days, mechanical ventilation, and tube feedings (The AAP Red Book, 2000).


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25.03.2003 6:58     citat 

Da, si eu am auzit acelasi lucru - ma refer la botulism. Si am mai auzit (citit) ca poate provoca anumite reactii alergice - copiilor ai caror parinti au alergie la polen, in principal.

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Locatie: cluj napoca
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cezara: 20 ani, 10 luni
am nascut deja!

25.03.2003 9:38     citat 

Da , mierea poate provoca botulism sau alergie.
Si noi am avut problema constipatiei, destul de acut. Pana la 5 luni , avea scaun doar cu supozitor de glicerina . Eraconstipata mai mult din cauza administarii de fier - dupa ce am terminat cu fierul , a reusit sa aiba singura scaun .
Poti sa-i indulcesti ceaiul cu lactuloza 5-10 ml lactuloza / 250 ml ceai.

Cel mai indicat remediu este sucul de portocale sau de mere. Fetita mea a refuzat sucurile dintotdeauna, nici macar nu vrea sa le guste.


Multa sanatate


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25.03.2003 10:44     citat 

Spori de botulism exista deasemenea in praf si in sol, de aceea toate legumele trebuie spalate foarte bine si preparate prin fierbere.

Bine spalate DA, dar nu cu detergent sau sapun scot limba , si nici mereu fierte toate, caci asa se distrug degeaba o mare parte din vitamine. Deci sa nu exageram in asemenea hal ca ajungem la "glumeti" de griji. trag cu ochiul

Evitati mierea sau fierbeti-o, spalati fructele si legumele cu apa in jet cit mai puternic si nu va lasati intimidate de orice fir de praf. Ca nu de mult am citit un studiu prin care s-a constatat ca nr. copiilor alergici este in crestere in cazul celor de la "oras" care se spala exagerat de mult cu antibacteriale (triclosan-ul care-l contin este deja pus sub semnul intrebarii intrebare ) si spala cu detergent de multe ori legumele si fructele. Iar cei de la tara, care mai uita sa se spele pe miini uneori inainte de masa, sau maninca un mar din gradina sters doar cu tricoul, is mult mai sanatosi si rezistenti la polen si alti spori alergeni.

E normal sa pastram o igiena adecvata, dar nu exagerata ca se cade in cealalta extrema. trag cu ochiul


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ENYA ANNE MARIE: 19 ani, 5 luni

27.03.2003 8:53     citat 

MIEREA nu este recomnadata pentru copiii sub un an ;ea provoaca imbolnaviri grave datorate unei bacterii pe care aceasta o poate contine si care se poate dezvolta in sistemul gastrointestinal al sugarilor .

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